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romney by a 22-point margin. those results match other polling that shows those comments alienated undecided voters. regardless of what you think of the substance of that it statement from mr. romney, it did turn the whole republican pundit class against him, called every candidate in a contested race to distance themselves from the presidential nominee of their party to start campaigning against mitt romney, telling voters, listen, i don't like that guy on that issue either, but vote for me any way even though i'm a republican. whether or not you think the remarks were scandalous, the polling impact of them is now showing up directly at a time when mr. romney's egregiously bad polling numbers seem to be calcifying and when most voters are now starting to vote. an incredibly negative impact for romney and his campaign at a difficult time for them. now on the eve of the first presidential debate, if they were hoping to put that behind them, any hope of getting away from the issue has now been expunged because "the
romney by a 22-point margin. those results match other polling that shows those comments alienated undecided voters. regardless of what you think of the substance of that it statement from mr. romney, it did turn the whole republican pundit class against him, called every candidate in a contested race to distance themselves from the presidential nominee of their party to start campaigning against mitt romney, telling voters, listen, i don't like that guy on that issue either, but vote for me...
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some of the heavier stuff eastern north carolina and also back there towards asheville and greenville, so far in charlotte and raleigh, just sprinkles for you. you look okay for your morning commute. as far as the forecast goes, eventually these showers will increase in areas like philadelphia, new york city and up into southern new england. so for this afternoon, it will be a better chance of rain. this morning i think you have a dry morning commute, though. all areas from philadelphia northwards up into new england. as far as the south goes, a lot of moisture heading down into florida. expect downpours today from miami northwards. even tampa has a good chance of thunderstorms today. that's about it. the rest of the country is absolutely gorgeous today. enjoy it while it lasts from billings to minneapolis to dallas. today in montana, 80 degrees and sunny. and then tomorrow, we welcome that canadian air. this will be the first really good shot of cold air. we'll be in the 40s tomorrow in billings. and it looks like that cold air, willie, is going to rush down through the middle of the
some of the heavier stuff eastern north carolina and also back there towards asheville and greenville, so far in charlotte and raleigh, just sprinkles for you. you look okay for your morning commute. as far as the forecast goes, eventually these showers will increase in areas like philadelphia, new york city and up into southern new england. so for this afternoon, it will be a better chance of rain. this morning i think you have a dry morning commute, though. all areas from philadelphia...
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you look as i mention the demographic changes, take north carolina for example, in north carolina, the black and hispanic electorate grew. the while share of the electorate fell by 2.5%. the country is on a trajectory and it's not moving backward. i know we'll talk about voter suppression later in the hour. this is the gop's only answer to demographic change. they back policies like the dream act or back voter suppression laws. there's no in between. you're for the changing demographics or you're not. >> you think you can win that group via policy. it feels to me the dream act policy, it gets us focused on as we talk about all these numbers what does it mean for actual people? i'll give you the last word on this. that fiscal clip is looking to us like is that sequestration cn 1.4 million jobs. >> whether it's in the business world or personal world, the amount of money you generate by having these people as raul says, start to pay taxes. it's an enormous boone to this economy to get these people start putting into the government what they are getting out of it. >> it makes all the diff
you look as i mention the demographic changes, take north carolina for example, in north carolina, the black and hispanic electorate grew. the while share of the electorate fell by 2.5%. the country is on a trajectory and it's not moving backward. i know we'll talk about voter suppression later in the hour. this is the gop's only answer to demographic change. they back policies like the dream act or back voter suppression laws. there's no in between. you're for the changing demographics or...
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the president has visited here 22 times. he will keep coming back because he knows ohio is the heart of it all. >> all right. ohio state senator nina turner, great to have you with us again tonight. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. i'm a believer. our locker room's okay. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. > good evening, ed. great show tonight. it was epic. thanks for staying with us the next hour. televised debates have existed in this country since 196 o. that was the really, really famous one. it was sweaty, dick nixon sick with a fever against polished john f. kennedy. legend has it that richard nixon heard that jfk was not going to get makeup from cbs for that debate, and so nixon said, well, i won't have any makeup either, then. even though he was running a 102 degree fever and not only was nixon ill that day, it turned out that when jfk turned down the cbs makeup offer, it was because he apparently had his own makeup arrangements already made. and so we got jfk with m
the president has visited here 22 times. he will keep coming back because he knows ohio is the heart of it all. >> all right. ohio state senator nina turner, great to have you with us again tonight. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. i'm a believer. our locker room's okay. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. > good evening, ed. great show tonight. it was epic. thanks for staying with us the next hour. televised debates...
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it's only in the republican party down at 22%. that's what's keeping the overall number in the low to mid 50s. outside the republican party this is basically a settled issue. so what you're seeing now, that means when you put it in a blue state, maine clearly blue, washington clearly blue, maryland clearly blue. the odds are very good that this thing is going to pass comfortably. minnesota we think of as a blue state but it is actually, as it gets closer, three, four, five point win for democrats commonly there, a lot more social conservatives there so it is not surprising it me it's a little closer than minnesota but i think we're at the point where if this goes on the ballot in a blue state it passes. in a swing state it could pass, it might not pass. if it's on the ballot in mississippi or kentucky or places like where it is republican heavy you're a long way away from there, a real long way spending the day today with ted olson seeing his passion and commitment on this issue and also seeing how central he is to the republican
it's only in the republican party down at 22%. that's what's keeping the overall number in the low to mid 50s. outside the republican party this is basically a settled issue. so what you're seeing now, that means when you put it in a blue state, maine clearly blue, washington clearly blue, maryland clearly blue. the odds are very good that this thing is going to pass comfortably. minnesota we think of as a blue state but it is actually, as it gets closer, three, four, five point win for...
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at a north carolina rally, mr. reagan brought up the debate, himself, and was downbeat. >> whether i won them or not, i've -- i know now that i have won the fruits of victory because i get to be with all of you. >> reporter: the real campaigning though, was done by the reagan staff trying to limit damage from the debate. last night officials who seldom return reporters' phone calls swarmed over the press saying mondale needed a knockout and got only a draw. there was even some finger pointing in the reagan camp. top campaign officials say white house officials did a terrible job of preparing the president. giving him too many facts and failing to organize his answers. one top official said mr. reagan did four mock debates and every time was as bad as he was last night. as mr. reagan celebrated columbus day, aides expect his lead to shrink with democrats pushing back to mondale. they won't change, s. for them the worst thing is a strong reagan performance might have clinched the election. what happened last night ga
at a north carolina rally, mr. reagan brought up the debate, himself, and was downbeat. >> whether i won them or not, i've -- i know now that i have won the fruits of victory because i get to be with all of you. >> reporter: the real campaigning though, was done by the reagan staff trying to limit damage from the debate. last night officials who seldom return reporters' phone calls swarmed over the press saying mondale needed a knockout and got only a draw. there was even some...
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why it's that low, is it retirees, kids that are 22 giving up? who knows? but that's a harder political thing to sell than saying, hey. we're below 8%. right? >> yes. >> i mean, that's the headline that is going to matter to the majority of americans that don't watch cnbc every day. >> let me ask you a question. don't you believe as a leading indicator of the health and well being of our economy it is much more about gdp growth than it is about the employment numbers? because if you have got 1.3% gdp growth, you're almost at stall speed. you know that at 3% you've got a reasonably healthy economy. our gdp growth a year ago was double where it is right now. the momentum is negative. to me that's a much greater indication about the health of the economy. >> right. >> and where consumers should feel confident. >> so let me cut in here quickly. mark halperin, i want to make sure we have this sourced right. you actually have information that the participation rate did not drop. >> it went up 0.1. but historically it is still very, very low. >> historically it's
why it's that low, is it retirees, kids that are 22 giving up? who knows? but that's a harder political thing to sell than saying, hey. we're below 8%. right? >> yes. >> i mean, that's the headline that is going to matter to the majority of americans that don't watch cnbc every day. >> let me ask you a question. don't you believe as a leading indicator of the health and well being of our economy it is much more about gdp growth than it is about the employment numbers? because...
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includes wisconsin, texas, florida, arizona, south carolina, ohio and now pennsylvania and mississippi. back to back the courts have stepped in and all in of those places republicans have tried to change the law and they've not been able to. but how do you quantify how much damage was done anyway? joining us now is the president of america votes and a former colorado state senator. joan fitzgerald, thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you for having me, rachel. >> in an earlier election, the voter registration firm that the republican party just fired, they are accused of i am percent nating of the group you now lead, this group america votes which is obviously left leaning. and then tearing up those registrations. how does your group quantify the damage from something like that? >> it's really hard to quantify. that was back in 2004, and as you've said this year all of this talk about voter suppression actually creates an environment that does suppress the vote, even if you don't pass the legislation or the legislation is not enacted. and we know that from studies that have b
includes wisconsin, texas, florida, arizona, south carolina, ohio and now pennsylvania and mississippi. back to back the courts have stepped in and all in of those places republicans have tried to change the law and they've not been able to. but how do you quantify how much damage was done anyway? joining us now is the president of america votes and a former colorado state senator. joan fitzgerald, thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you for having me, rachel. >> in an...
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heard she was 16, and i was blown away because off the bat you would think this person is at least 21, 22 years old. she looked older, but she also carried herself in a fashion that most 16-year-olds wouldn't. >> you're a grandpa. >> i know, i know. i wanted to see emily, too. >> that's your incentive. you can see her when you get out. >> oh, man. >> during their conversation she was talking about her father getting out and the time that he would spend with his granddaughter and she came off very motherly. >> i wouldn't change anything because it made me who i am today, and i wouldn't change it. >> you're not mad at me? >> i'm mad, i am, but it's done with. i can't hold resentment. like, i don't know. >> really? man. >> with our time at limon nearing its end and slagle's release date growing nearer, we anticipated following him home for a reunion not only with raven and his granddaughter but with his twin brother, roy, who had only recently been released from prison himself. but that would never happen. >> we were towards the end of our day filming and we ran into ray, and he was uncharac
heard she was 16, and i was blown away because off the bat you would think this person is at least 21, 22 years old. she looked older, but she also carried herself in a fashion that most 16-year-olds wouldn't. >> you're a grandpa. >> i know, i know. i wanted to see emily, too. >> that's your incentive. you can see her when you get out. >> oh, man. >> during their conversation she was talking about her father getting out and the time that he would spend with his...
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. >>> caught on camera: they fought the law. a gunman goes on a deadly rampage in the heart of hollywood. >> i saw a guy on the street in his car go by. he start shooting at him. >> i figured he had blanks. i thought it couldn't be real. it became real when i heard a window shatter. >> i hadn't heard any gunshots. there was no fore warning. there was nothing to tell me that i was driving into danger. i was within half an inch of death. >> he was right there. i kind of just shrug off to the side and make myself a tiny target. hear the gunshot go off. >>> los angeles, california. december 9th, 2011. chris johns is working out of his home office four stories above the hollywood intersection of sunset and vine. >> i was on the phone, and during the phone call i heard a popping sound. first i dismissed it as the backfire of a car or some construction down the road. and then i heard pop, pop, a new more pops. i looked out the window and saw a man with a white tank top and a gun. was roaming the streets randomly shooting at cars. >> jo
. >>> caught on camera: they fought the law. a gunman goes on a deadly rampage in the heart of hollywood. >> i saw a guy on the street in his car go by. he start shooting at him. >> i figured he had blanks. i thought it couldn't be real. it became real when i heard a window shatter. >> i hadn't heard any gunshots. there was no fore warning. there was nothing to tell me that i was driving into danger. i was within half an inch of death. >> he was right there. i...
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we saw it when the justice department stepped in to block the laws in texas, south carolina and florida. we saw it when governors in six states all but one were democrats, vetoed voter i.d. laws. they were champions of democracy to do so. and we saw it when state and federal courts rejected laws in eight states, including today's major ruling in pennsylvania. this morning a judge blocked pennsylvania's controversial voter i.d. from going into effect before the november election. after it was revealed that hundreds of thousands of voters face the real pocket that they would not be allowed to vote. but now this unjust law will not be in effect on election day in this critical swing state. it's a stunning rebuke to republicans and their shameless attempt to rig the system. just remember one of those state top gop lawmakers slipped up and said what these laws are all about. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow governor romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> sorry. it's not done. not anymore. not on our watch. not when we have our say. folks, the fight is far from over. under th
we saw it when the justice department stepped in to block the laws in texas, south carolina and florida. we saw it when governors in six states all but one were democrats, vetoed voter i.d. laws. they were champions of democracy to do so. and we saw it when state and federal courts rejected laws in eight states, including today's major ruling in pennsylvania. this morning a judge blocked pennsylvania's controversial voter i.d. from going into effect before the november election. after it was...
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it's law that just makes sense. to prove that febreze car vent clips could eliminate the odor. [ woman ] take a deep breath, tell me what you smell. something fresh. a clean house. [ woman ] take your blindfolds off. oh!! hahahaha!!! [ male announcer ] febreze car. eliminates odors, so you can breathe happy. [ male announcer ] febreze car. you know it can be hard to lbreathe, and how that feels.e, copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your
it's law that just makes sense. to prove that febreze car vent clips could eliminate the odor. [ woman ] take a deep breath, tell me what you smell. something fresh. a clean house. [ woman ] take your blindfolds off. oh!! hahahaha!!! [ male announcer ] febreze car. eliminates odors, so you can breathe happy. [ male announcer ] febreze car. you know it can be hard to lbreathe, and how that feels.e, copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping...
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law for now. a judge in the past few hours blocked the law from goalkeeper into effect. judge simpson ordered the sat not to enforce the voter i.d. requirement in this year's election, but it will go into full effect next year. opponents of the law say it would hurt voter turnover, especially among minorities and the leeld he who are likely to vote for democrats in that state. it was in june that a top state republican lawmaker predicted the law would help governor romney. >> which is going to allow governor romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> and joining us now, judith brown, diana's co-director of the advancement project, a civil rights organization that filed the lawsuit. thank you for your time. we played that state lawmaker who said if that law was in effect in pennsylvania, he felt that governor romney would win that state, done. the polling shows opposite. nevertheless there was a concern. let's talk about the split decision. the judge is blocking it for now, but what happens next? >> well, you know, this is a big victory for democracy. it paves the
law for now. a judge in the past few hours blocked the law from goalkeeper into effect. judge simpson ordered the sat not to enforce the voter i.d. requirement in this year's election, but it will go into full effect next year. opponents of the law say it would hurt voter turnover, especially among minorities and the leeld he who are likely to vote for democrats in that state. it was in june that a top state republican lawmaker predicted the law would help governor romney. >> which is...
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joe biden in north carolina and paul ryan on a bus tour in iowa. last night he was in dubuque. the first time at a public campaign event he delivered this line. >> the choice is clear, and here is what we are doing. we are entering the debate phase, the choice phase of this campaign. this choice is ever so clear. >> speaking of choice, has mitt romney's choice of paul ryan paid off? let's ask republican strategist and former gingrich campaign senior advisor david winston and nbc latino contributor, a senior fellow at the university of texas. good morning to both of you. will mitt romney have to and be able to defend paul ryan's budget plan at the debate tomorrow? >> clearly, the selection of paul ryan was an intent to give, sort of fill out this alternative. how was mitt romney going to be an alternative to whatever president obama's policies were. that was a strategic shift from it being just simply a referendum on the president. it's not, it wasn't so much does he have to defend everything paul ryan did? it's how does paul ryan supplement what mitt romney is going to say in t
joe biden in north carolina and paul ryan on a bus tour in iowa. last night he was in dubuque. the first time at a public campaign event he delivered this line. >> the choice is clear, and here is what we are doing. we are entering the debate phase, the choice phase of this campaign. this choice is ever so clear. >> speaking of choice, has mitt romney's choice of paul ryan paid off? let's ask republican strategist and former gingrich campaign senior advisor david winston and nbc...
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law. he doesn't think that will be a problem, but he can't take the state's word that they are going to get all the problems fixed in time for the election. >> it's a big development with 20 electoral votes in pennsylvania. later we'll get reaction to this decision from former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and mayor michael nutter. >>> who will bring the dynamite to denver? a little over the a day for the presidential debate. both president obama and mitt romney getting ready for their first face-off tomorrow night in colorado. doing the hefty lifting on the number two on the ticket and the candidates' wives. mitt romney is in denver where last night he tried to put the kibosh on predebate winning. >> people want to know who is going to win, who will make the biggest difference and scoring of winning and losing. in my view it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself, it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity f
law. he doesn't think that will be a problem, but he can't take the state's word that they are going to get all the problems fixed in time for the election. >> it's a big development with 20 electoral votes in pennsylvania. later we'll get reaction to this decision from former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and mayor michael nutter. >>> who will bring the dynamite to denver? a little over the a day for the presidential debate. both president obama and mitt romney getting ready...
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law in pennsylvania. tim burns, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine culliton-gonzalez. director of the voter protection program at advancement project. i just want -- i know she doesn't outrank either of you start because she's an expert at this. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania for this election? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. we're pleased with it. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania, in texas, and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vindication for the people of pennsylvania. who would have been disenfranchised by it. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting to keep from voting? >> well, we only need to look at the facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latino
law in pennsylvania. tim burns, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine culliton-gonzalez. director of the voter protection program at advancement project. i just want -- i know she doesn't outrank either of you start because she's an expert at this. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania for this election? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. we're pleased with it. the fight is still...
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but today the judge blocked a key part of the law. his ruling means voters will be asked for an i.d. but they can go ahead and vote without one. the ruling only covers this election. the decision is bad news for republicans in pennsylvania. earlier this year one of the party leaders boasted the law would help mitt romney win the election. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of 41 states to pass restrictive new voting laws since president obama won in 2008. so far 17 states have successfully passed restrictive votesing laws since president obama won the white house. republicans in ohio tried to squash early voting. the gop tried to purge the voter roles in florida. the republicans have claimed all along they are trying to stop voter fraud. but look what happens. it turns out they are the ones who were cheating. a get out the vote scandal is rocking the republican party. strategic allied consulting was hired to help register voters. now they are firing th
but today the judge blocked a key part of the law. his ruling means voters will be asked for an i.d. but they can go ahead and vote without one. the ruling only covers this election. the decision is bad news for republicans in pennsylvania. earlier this year one of the party leaders boasted the law would help mitt romney win the election. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of 41 states to pass...
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law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania in taction and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vintcation for the people of pennsylvania. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting? >> well, we only need to look fe facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latinos. that's why we're winning. we're fighting back and winning. >> bill clinton, who is very good at making things simple, as we know, he's done it again this summer, he said this
law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in...
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a south carolina family will not be hitting the like button. the pictures were taken at a party thrown by teens who broke into their home. partygoers have revealed the main culprits are classmates of the kids that live in the home. maybe got a little scoop there. >>> now for your national weather let's turn to nbc meteorologist bill karins. he's shaking his head like been there, done that, i know how that goes. >> so many people in our generation is so happy there wasn't social media in our high school days. >> we just had observant neighbors. >> yes. >> those cared aren't supposed to be parked in the driveway. >> been there, done that. we thought we'd get away with that one. >> good morning, everyone. the weather around the country is going to be interesting to say the least the rest of this october. it will be different than what we've been dealing with. this is the october temperature forecast. we've had an unbelievably warm 2012. we've off the charts, on pace for warmer than average. now the prediction for october is for a good chunk of the
a south carolina family will not be hitting the like button. the pictures were taken at a party thrown by teens who broke into their home. partygoers have revealed the main culprits are classmates of the kids that live in the home. maybe got a little scoop there. >>> now for your national weather let's turn to nbc meteorologist bill karins. he's shaking his head like been there, done that, i know how that goes. >> so many people in our generation is so happy there wasn't social...
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both of them harvard, both of them harvard law review. i mean, it was amazing how they were like flip sides of the same coin. >> it is. they do a fascinating parallels. but the paradox of the difference is that john roberts when it comes to the constitution is the candidate of change. he's the one who wants to change the law on abortion, on civil rights, on the death penalty, on all of these areas whereas obama is much more of a cautious conservative when it comes to the course. he's the one saying, let's leave things the way they are. the law is okay the way it is. roberts is part of the generation of conservatives. ronald reagan brought them to washington who said, we have to change the law. >> i've been trying to tell everybody, i'm a conservative. i'm trying to conserve the voting rights act, conserve affirmative action. i'm the conservative. so glad jeffrey toobin came on the show to affirm that for me. >> that's my goal, rev. >> jeffrey toobin. the book is, the oath, the obama white house and the supreme court. you need to read it a
both of them harvard, both of them harvard law review. i mean, it was amazing how they were like flip sides of the same coin. >> it is. they do a fascinating parallels. but the paradox of the difference is that john roberts when it comes to the constitution is the candidate of change. he's the one who wants to change the law on abortion, on civil rights, on the death penalty, on all of these areas whereas obama is much more of a cautious conservative when it comes to the course. he's the...
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i would suggest to him or pose the question he sasz he's followed the law to the letter of the law in terms of paying his taxes, but so do the 47%. so why is it that it's okay for him but it's not okay for them. and i would also love to do a little comparison with how much money he's actually saved versus that 47% gets in that earned income tax credit and let's just compare who's really getting the sweeter deal there. >> i think if there's just one question, i guess i would like to hear if you gave john mccain a dozen or more tax returns in order to be vetted for him, why wouldn't you give us those tax returns to vet you for the possible presidency. that's what i think the audience could follow. >> absolutely. i think that's what a lot of people are thinking. what is the big deal? why not just show us? and i also think it's a bit of malpractice the way his team has miscalculated how this story would play out. >> and paul ryan had to give ten years of his returns to romney. >> right. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks. >> coming up. the republican voter suppression strate
i would suggest to him or pose the question he sasz he's followed the law to the letter of the law in terms of paying his taxes, but so do the 47%. so why is it that it's okay for him but it's not okay for them. and i would also love to do a little comparison with how much money he's actually saved versus that 47% gets in that earned income tax credit and let's just compare who's really getting the sweeter deal there. >> i think if there's just one question, i guess i would like to hear...
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the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want that you're going to have to have a certificate, birth certificate with a raised seal and three other forms of identification. well, that was a problem. so then the state said, okay, here is what we're going to do. we'll issue a new form of i.d. that's good only for voting, and they started to do that, but they said you could only get that if you couldn't qualify for the other forms. then they changed their mind on that. so what the judge finally said is, i think the state now has it about right, that it's easy to g
the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want...
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obama registered 250,000 new voters in north carolina. everybody said north carolina won't really be competitive this time. i thought that along with indiana, it was probably those two states he was most likely to lose yet he's holding up in the polls. if he carries it, it's probably going to be that registration edge from the massive registration he's doing and now the republicans can't do. >> watching some of the -- one of the things i did was watch a lot of local news coverage of how this is being covered. hearing from people who live in colorado don't believe the polls. it's a lot closer than it seems. colorado is going to be really hard fought. maybe mitt romney ha a hard time in the primaries in 2012. he did great in 2008. people will remember him. half of what the colorado party has spent on this election it's spent on that voter registration contract with this bogus company that's now been fired and can do no work in the last home stretch of the campaign. there's a basic competence issue in terms of what it means to run a party he
obama registered 250,000 new voters in north carolina. everybody said north carolina won't really be competitive this time. i thought that along with indiana, it was probably those two states he was most likely to lose yet he's holding up in the polls. if he carries it, it's probably going to be that registration edge from the massive registration he's doing and now the republicans can't do. >> watching some of the -- one of the things i did was watch a lot of local news coverage of how...
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the rest of the businesses in the population of south carolina. you are talking roughly 18,000 people who run businesses more than 500 people. the millions of businesses that generally are having a very hard time. so, it's not a matter of bigness or smallness. ultimately, it should be those businesses that help sustain communities versus those that prey on them. >> congressman, it strikes me this has become a thing that is political can't. you are never going to get up in the well of the house and say i proudly bring before today this bill is that going to stick it to small businesses. i mean, but if you say this bill is going to be great for small businesses whether or not it's the case, you give it this kind of legitimacy. >> you are right on both counts, i'm not going to stick it to small businesses. but, you know, it's not a term in search of definition. it's a term to avoid definition. that's the deal. everybody wants to be quote, for business. some small businesses get the job done. most of the time, when talking small business, the sense of
the rest of the businesses in the population of south carolina. you are talking roughly 18,000 people who run businesses more than 500 people. the millions of businesses that generally are having a very hard time. so, it's not a matter of bigness or smallness. ultimately, it should be those businesses that help sustain communities versus those that prey on them. >> congressman, it strikes me this has become a thing that is political can't. you are never going to get up in the well of the...
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you just broke the law. you broke the law. you assaulted me. >> as quickly as she arrives, the parking enforcement officer moves on. again, no charges are filed. it's all just a typical day on the streets for a video vigilante. >> i've been assaulted, i've been spit at, i've been pushed and i've had cameras broken. i've been threatened with arrest. i've been threatened with bodily harm. the only way that i'm going to stop is when police officers and other city officials stop breaking the law. >> for anyone looking to follow in his footsteps, jimmy justice says he has some rules. >> never, ever interfere with the police while they're doing their job during an emergency. always keep a safe distance. and never physically confront the police. >>> coming up -- >> everybody sit down. >> -- a father pushed over the edge by school bus bullies. >>> and a hidden camera catches a nanny on her worst behavior when "caught on camera: bad behavior" continues. welcome aboard! [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ male a
you just broke the law. you broke the law. you assaulted me. >> as quickly as she arrives, the parking enforcement officer moves on. again, no charges are filed. it's all just a typical day on the streets for a video vigilante. >> i've been assaulted, i've been spit at, i've been pushed and i've had cameras broken. i've been threatened with arrest. i've been threatened with bodily harm. the only way that i'm going to stop is when police officers and other city officials stop...
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law. all the details. and on ttter using the #edshow. >>> thanks for wching "the ed show." mitt romney is runng behind in the polls. he needs to bring his a game tomorrow night. does he has have a game? romney has an uphi climb on his hands. done some al damagto the campaign. is being given analysis by the americaneople. >> that infamous piece otape american peopl st poll shows just 23% of likely votersay romy's comments made th tnk more 45% said it madefeel more romn senior adviser ed gillese sa they are expecting the 47% remark to come up in tomorrow's date and is prepared to an it and address it. we believe the voters willee and appreciate the facat overnor romney'salking about uld improvthe ity ericans. joining me tonight is msnbc political analysrichd wolffe and host of "now with alex wagn",lex wagner. congratulations on your show. it's realltaken off. >> thank you, ed. >> there's dage here. mee polls owt. you can almost feel it. richard, how does heeverse the damage tomorrow night? >> if he'srte the debate as a c reintroduce himselto the american people. he blew that
law. all the details. and on ttter using the #edshow. >>> thanks for wching "the ed show." mitt romney is runng behind in the polls. he needs to bring his a game tomorrow night. does he has have a game? romney has an uphi climb on his hands. done some al damagto the campaign. is being given analysis by the americaneople. >> that infamous piece otape american peopl st poll shows just 23% of likely votersay romy's comments made th tnk more 45% said it madefeel more romn...
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it's law that just makes sense. with the fidelity stock screener, you can try strategies from independent experts and see what criteria they use. such as a 5% yield on dividend-paying stocks. then you can customize the strategies and narrow down to exactly those stocks you want to follow. i'm mark allen of fidelity investments. the expert strategies feature is one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. now get 200 free trades when you open an account. >>> the dow industrials give back earlier gains but end the day up 78 points. the s&p 500 adds 4. the nasdaq falls 3. upbeat news about the economy started today's rally. a reporting on the manufacturing sector showed expansion in september, the first time that happened since may. on the m&a front, 3m is by buying ceradyne. that's it for cnbc, first in business worldwide. we'll send it back to "hardball" and your host, chris matthews. >>> well, back to "hardball." republicans have been on the hunt, by the way, some would say witch hunt, to root
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>> i'm 22. >> 22. and how old was the girl you were chatting with? >> the girl said she was 13 or 14. >> 13 or 14. and you thought that it would be okay to come over here and visit a young girl, home alone. >> i wanted her to think it was okay. >> now, i'm looking at this chat log here. 16 minutes into this discussion, you asked if she can do deep throat. explain that to me. >> no reason to explain. >> how do you feel about sex? you on birth control or are you sticking with condoms? here's a guy, looks like the kind of guy anybody would be happy to have their daughter date. you look at his myspace page. his hero is god. his motto is "jesus rocks." you got toys? i want you to square that with what's on your myspace website where you talk about jesus rocks and heroes, god. you need to know that i'm chris hansen with "dateline" and we're doing a story on adults who try to meet teens online. if there's anything else you'd like to tell us, we'd like to hear it. otherwise, you are obviously free to be on your way. as i'm finishing my conversation, i ask if
>> i'm 22. >> 22. and how old was the girl you were chatting with? >> the girl said she was 13 or 14. >> 13 or 14. and you thought that it would be okay to come over here and visit a young girl, home alone. >> i wanted her to think it was okay. >> now, i'm looking at this chat log here. 16 minutes into this discussion, you asked if she can do deep throat. explain that to me. >> no reason to explain. >> how do you feel about sex? you on birth...
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i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there and doing the typical -- >> why does it seem like the right thing to do? >> well, it seems like the right thing to do for you, chris, but what is the fair share? what is the fair number that a warren buffett or a mitt romney or myself should pay? that's going to be at one end of the debate? but how do we get others in our economy who want to be taxpayers, who want to be taxpayers, those who lost their jobs under this administration, want to be back under the administration and pay their fair share, so let's get them the jobs to do that. >> i'm not sure that was a clear response. >> it was clear. it worked for me.
i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there...
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under a new law so-called conversion therapy will be banned for anyone under 18. california governor jerry brown issued a statement saying the therapies have quote, no basis in science or medicine. >>> a devastating new attack in afghanistan to talk about today. a suicide bomber killed 14 people including three american soldiers in the volatile eastern province of khost. it comes a day after the death toll in the 11-year-old war in afghanistan reached 2,000. but that number does not include the number of americans injured in afghanistan and who died when they were transferred elsewhere. which would then raise the total to over 2100. nbc news has special coverage today across the middle east. lester holt joins us live now at the afghan capital of kabul. that number 2,000 representing only americans who died in afghanistan not those who were injured in the country. but didn't die until they were transported wrels. that's a big distinction. this is a major marker to reach now with the number of casualties. >> it is. and we've been talking about a number over 2100 for
under a new law so-called conversion therapy will be banned for anyone under 18. california governor jerry brown issued a statement saying the therapies have quote, no basis in science or medicine. >>> a devastating new attack in afghanistan to talk about today. a suicide bomber killed 14 people including three american soldiers in the volatile eastern province of khost. it comes a day after the death toll in the 11-year-old war in afghanistan reached 2,000. but that number does not...
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we're not seeing that same activity in terms of outreach in north carolina or florida, but our nonprofits are doing what they can to actually register more voters and to ensure they actually understand the changing laws of the voter i.d. laws in those states as well. >> toby, what's the romney campaign strategy to reach asian american voters and how does it care to the obama campaign strategy. how can the campaigns do a better job, in your view? >> certainly the romney campaign is going back to its argument that top-end tax cuts will help business owners, specifically. but if you look at the engagement that's happening on president obama's campaign, it's very fascinating. it's been focused at the neighborhood level, probably at an unusually early part of the cycle, they started doing the field operations. they're also organizing online, through a digital dashboard. so that these constituents can organize themselves. and that's probably the most interesting thing about this election cycle. you're seeing a new generation of candidates from within the community starting to challenge the deba
we're not seeing that same activity in terms of outreach in north carolina or florida, but our nonprofits are doing what they can to actually register more voters and to ensure they actually understand the changing laws of the voter i.d. laws in those states as well. >> toby, what's the romney campaign strategy to reach asian american voters and how does it care to the obama campaign strategy. how can the campaigns do a better job, in your view? >> certainly the romney campaign is...
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law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still looking for good polls. right now it's probably best to see the swing state polls that come out monday, tuesday, wednesday. at that point we'll have a good idea after people have digested the debate as well as these job number, but alex, i think you pointed to it very well. the obama campaign got a very big gift from the job number, just to be able to turn the subject from wednesday night's tough debate into something that was seen as a positive, that the unemployment rate went below 8% and just change the story. allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remain
law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still...
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law school will graduate and pass the bar in the first attempt. they don't get any information. that seemses to elementally unfair. we want better information from researchers and the students to benefit from the preferences. >> stewart, let's talk some about how would you would change affirm itch action. william julius wilson argues in the truly disadvantaged, we have a different critique that results in a process in the sense that those with the greatest economic resources among the less advantaged individuals are the ones actually tapped for higher-paying jobs and higher education through affirmative action. he argues as a tool to increase diversity, affirmative action is successful. as a tool to lift people, it's been a failure. how could we reform affirmative action and make it more effective in that respect? >> william julius wilson is a great scholar and he's right. his point you summarize and the affirmative action instead of it. >> they're by and large affluent blacks and hispanics and it does nothing at all for the poor and the working c
law school will graduate and pass the bar in the first attempt. they don't get any information. that seemses to elementally unfair. we want better information from researchers and the students to benefit from the preferences. >> stewart, let's talk some about how would you would change affirm itch action. william julius wilson argues in the truly disadvantaged, we have a different critique that results in a process in the sense that those with the greatest economic resources among the...
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laws and last night's episode had a nod to the 2012 race. here goes. you have heard of mcbain, the simpson's version of an action star. we'll take a look at the sign that popped up during the show's opening credits last night. mcbain capital, consider this a hostile takeover. that's obviously a knock at mitt romney's old stomping grounds,. bain capital. it was "the new york times" reporter dave isikoff who caught that one. >>> next, when things get damp. a florida reporter went to the home of congressional candidate justin lamar sternad to track down some answers. was the failed democratic candidate only in the race to take votes away from another democratic candidate? and was republican incumbent david rivera behind him in this? here is what happened when the reporter, michael putney, showed up at sternad's front door. >> sorry to bother you. i'm michael putney with channel 4 -- >> drenched. the person behind the splash was apparently the former candidate's wife. the situation of his candidacy is currently under investigation by the fbi. >>> finally,
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police records show charges of resisting arrest and assaulting a law enforcement officer. in the courtroom, the judge has some stern words for her. >> this is a community that has, in fact, you know, suffered a major airplane crash in the last couple of years. and an incident like this at the airport is a major concern for the public. >> the judge in court kind of told her, you know, you need to get your stuff together. you know, i want you to go to rehab back home, and you obviously have a problem, and you need to get it taken care of. >> four months after the incident in lexington, the charges of making a terrorist threat are dropped. >> guilty. >> mills pleads guilty to charges of alcohol intoxication in a public place and operating under the influence as a crew member of an aircraft. she attends rehab and is sentenced to pay a $660 fine. >> this was a case that i never thought would have gotten the attention that it did, but the interest and the publicity on the local news and people just calling me and asking me about it was amazing. >> mills loses her job with the ai
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law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s there this ruling is an icing or cherry on top. i don't think they would have won the state regardless, less likely today. >> and when you look at the fact that early voting is starting in ohio, iowa, all these states already voting, how does that affect the way the candidates are spending their time and money? >> you're actually seeing them literallies and president obama's rallies he had been going to in ohio last week, were all about getting the early vote out, making sure people were registered and saying hey, remember, folks
law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s...
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and the sci-fi thriller "looper" snagged the number two spot with 22 million. in other news, arnold schwarzenegger tells "60 minutes" he cheated on wife maria shriver multiple times, including an affair with actress brigitte nielsen while he and shriver were dating. anything to say about this one? >> uh, gross. >> he and shriver divorced last year. bill, i know you love lohan news. lindsay lohan is claiming a 25-year-old man who she reportedly met at a nightclub grabbed her in her new york hotel room -- >> i would have protected her. >> really? any way, this guy grabbed her in her new york hotel room in an argument over cell phone photos her took of her. police arrested the man on assault charges but later voided the arrest when they couldn't be substantiated. >> if you know there are pictures, you know tmz will get them soon and we'll see them. >>> justin bieber had a concert foul in arizona this weekend when he bent over mid song and barfed. he later tweeted milk was a bad choice, lol. really? >> no comment? >> some people having their broke fast this morning
and the sci-fi thriller "looper" snagged the number two spot with 22 million. in other news, arnold schwarzenegger tells "60 minutes" he cheated on wife maria shriver multiple times, including an affair with actress brigitte nielsen while he and shriver were dating. anything to say about this one? >> uh, gross. >> he and shriver divorced last year. bill, i know you love lohan news. lindsay lohan is claiming a 25-year-old man who she reportedly met at a nightclub...
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law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the same workers, mitt romney said he would honor their temporary visas and allow the workers to say in the u.s. if he becomes president. this of course, is that executive order that the president signed. mitt romney had not said whether he was going to keep that order in place or rescind it. he says now, you can keep it in place. >>> one border patrol agent has been killed in a shooting near the mexico/arizona border. we're following that story. we'll get you more updates as we get them. >>> in today's deep dive, president
law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the...
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we had the huggate incident, where the president shockingly hugged a professor at his law school at the time that he was there. we had him saying the apparently horrific dirty word, redistribution and we also have now, interestingly, 1 million copies of this anti-obama conspiracy theory documentary, "dreams from obama's real father" that have been sent out around ohio. and i think, frankly, that there is a significant chunk of the right-wing that is living in an alternate universe in which if the truth about the president really got out and if the mainstream media would just focus on the questions around his place of birth and his secret ideology, there's no way he could be reelected president. you know, i think this actual alternate universe has been challenge for the romney campaign to navigate and impacted their ability to message effectively and focus on snag is going to be appealing to the base but makes sense to a broader elector rat. i would point to their "you didn't build that" narrative. they grabbed part of the president's comments, used it in stumps speeches, used it in ads,
we had the huggate incident, where the president shockingly hugged a professor at his law school at the time that he was there. we had him saying the apparently horrific dirty word, redistribution and we also have now, interestingly, 1 million copies of this anti-obama conspiracy theory documentary, "dreams from obama's real father" that have been sent out around ohio. and i think, frankly, that there is a significant chunk of the right-wing that is living in an alternate universe in...